McCain Record on our borders


I am sick of a Legislative system that does not seem to care about its constituents concerns..Losing our liberties and freedoms that our fathers have given their lives to ensure. A media that has its own agenda-Far Left! The lies, Greening and carbon talk, In short Be politically correct or you are fired! Apathy, lack of knowledge, I could go on and on but I will spare you.. 

One of my beefs is how we have been putting off the border that clearly the American people want not just to keep illegals out but for safety and security. So I am going to be looking at the record and sharing with you various candidates and their record on this issue and other important matters.  I suppose I have had more respect for Sen. McCain than any of his contenders as he has paid an enormous price for our freedoms. Personally I do not know how he or anyone else for that matter can take torture and isolation for 5 years as he did as a prisoner of war. He knows what he is talking about as he has experienced and paid the price when it comes to sending our husbands, sons, and brothers to war. I especially admired his courage to choose to stay a prisoner with his men (when he was offered to be set free because of who his father was ) So I am more than a little disappointed with his record here on Illegals.

With all that said, you do know what is important to you.. so let us look at it… and then we can vote in November what is truly important to us..

“The spin masters may think illegal immigration is an issue that pits conservative Republicans against liberal Democrats. But it doesn’t always. Nowadays, worry about illegal immigration is just as likely to mean that African Americans are terrified of racist alien gangs in Los Angeles. Asian Americans are frustrated that their relatives with college degrees wait years to emigrate legally, while thousands without high-school diplomas to the south simply break the law to enter the United States. And many Mexican Americans are probably tired of being expected to defend the indefensible of foreign nationals breaking immigration laws simply because they may share an ethnic heritage with illegal aliens. To the extent Democratic candidates ignore illegal immigration, or demonize those who worry over hundreds of thousands of new illegal aliens each year, or talk of guest workers and amnesty before they mention closing the borders, it is a losing issue that could alienate millions of voters. Democratic candidates can’t really claim that redneck racists are rushing to the border to clash with poor campesinos just crossing to better their lives, because many poor Democrats also resent how illegal labor drives down their own wages. It is mostly the American poor and middle class who worry about the sudden influx of thousands who don’t speak English and often need public assistance.” —Victor Davis Hanson

Info Taken from Patriot Post

There is indeed much to admire about Sen. John McCain, ranging from his courage as a POW to his extraordinary leadership in pushing for the troop “surge” in Iraq. But this has not been the case with his disingenuous blustering on illegal immigration — particularly when his cosponsorship of mass-amnesty legislation with Sen. Edward Kennedy is raised. The Arizona Republican now says that, in the wake of last summer’s defeat of “comprehensive immigration reform,” he has “gotten the message” that the border must be secured before the status of illegals already in the United States can be dealt with.
That’s fair enough. But it doesn’t give Mr. McCain the right to shut people up when they ask legitimate questions about his immigration record — which includes cosponsoring legislation to permit illegal aliens to pay lower in-state tuition rates denied to some students that are in the country legally, supporting Social Security benefits for illegals and voting against an amendment last year that would have permanently barred gang members, terrorists and other criminals from the United States.
In a Jan. 5 debate, Mr. McCain declared that anyone who says he supported amnesty is “a liar, is lying.” Several days before he won the New Hampshire primary, Mr. McCain was asked by a voter about criticism of his record. The senator replied: “I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and [I] never have supported Social Security benefits for people who are in this country illegally.” Any assertion to the contrary, he added “is absolutely false.”
To be certain, there are some bright spots to Mr. McCain’s immigration record. Last year, for example, he voted to permit the sharing of information contained in amnesty applications if requested by a law enforcement or intelligence agency and voted to make it more difficult for illegals to benefit from sanctuary-city policies. But time and again, he has sided with the pro-amnesty, open-borders crowd. Following is a partial listing of some of Mr. McCain’s troubling actions on illegal immigration:
Supporting mass amnesty. The May 29, 2003, Tucson Citizen quoted Mr. McCain as stating that “Amnesty has to be an important part of” any immigration solution. He was part of the bipartisan coalition that tried to pass amnesty legislation in 2006 and 2007. In 2006 he voted in favor of S. 2611, legislation that would reward between 10 and 11 million illegals with amnesty if they apply for legal status and pay a $2,000 fine.

Supporting in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Mr. McCain was a cosponsor of S. 774, the Dream Act, providing in-state tuition for illegal aliens. The legislation would have enabled illegal aliens who entered the United States before age 16 to obtain a green card and then use their newly acquired status to obtain green cards for the millions of parents who illegally brought their children with them into the United States. Mr. McCain missed a Senate vote on the issue in October. He said that he would have opposed it on the Senate floor had he been there to vote.

Voted to kill border fence. In 2006, Mr. McCain voted for an amendment to S. 2611 offered by Sen. Arlen Specter to require consultation with the Mexican government concerning the construction of fencing along the U.S.-Mexican border. According to Numbers USA, an organization that lobbies against illegal immigration, this amendment would have effectively guaranteed that the border fence was never built.

Voted against permanently barring gang members and terrorists from the United States. Last year, Mr. McCain voted against an amendment (Senate Amendment 1184) introduced by Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, that would have permanently barred gang members, terrorists, sex offenders, alien absconders, aliens convicted of domestic violence and aliens convicted of at least three DUIs from the United States. The Cornyn Amendment was rejected on a 51-46 vote.

Social Security :I will be coming back with this as could not find again, but I remember it was not good. It was for illegals drawing it in some fashion. 

On McCain’s website, it seems like a lot of backwater has been taken. but above is the record.

 This nation’s 12 million illegal aliens need to be urged homeward in part because, if we don’t do it, we are in effect inviting tens of millions more to come. Mr. McCain is willing to let most stay put forever if they pay a penalty and bristles when it’s suggested this is a reward, a kind of amnesty. But it is. Let’s grant that no solution is without complications and that tough actions against hiring most illegals will push them to return to where work is possible. Our own least advantaged groups will then be likelier to prosper, as will the rule of law.
The worst of Mr. McCain is symbolized by the act that bears his name — McCain-Feingold, which among other of its abominations tells Americans who have grouped together to make themselves felt on issues that they have to shut up on radio and TV as elections draw close. Mr. McCain has said he thinks the First Amendment protection of free speech is dispensable in order to have “clean government,” and he fiercely castigates “negative advertising,” which can actually be useful in educating voters as long as it is honest.
Mr. McCain wants you to know about him on his own terms — it’s part of a style some say is authoritarian, despite the constant appearance of bonhomie.

Mr. McCain is not the least of the candidates in his party this year, but he’s far from the best, either. 

The High Cost of Illegal 


The American taxpayer foots the bill for tens of billions of dollars in services and other benefits given to households of low-skill immigrants, many of whom are here illegally.

On average, each of these 4.5 million households receives nearly three dollars in taxpayer-funded services for every dollar it pays in taxes, according to a special report from The Heritage Foundation.

The Heritage report, published as the Senate takes up legislation to put illegal aliens on a fast track to citizenship, calculates that households of low-skill immigrants paid an average $10,573 in taxes in fiscal 2004.

But these low-skill immigrants received almost three times as much — $30,160 per household — in government benefits and services. That’s a “fiscal deficit” of $19,587.

That’s also about $10,000 more in services and benefits — mostly welfare payments — than the average U.S. household got.

“Over the next 10 years,” analysts Robert Rector and Christine Kim write, “the net cost (benefits minus taxes) to the taxpayer of low-skill immigrant households will approach $1 trillion.”

At least half of adult illegal aliens don’t have a high school diploma, according to Pew Hispanic Center, compared with 25 percent of legal immigrants. By contrast, 9 percent of nonimmigrant adults lack a high school diploma.

Americans tend to be “net taxpayers” during our working years — that is, the amount we pay in taxes exceeds the cost of services we consume. In retirement, we become “net tax takers” — benefits received exceed taxes paid.

But it’s a different case for households of low-skill immigrants. No matter the age of the head of household, benefits received far exceed taxes paid by low-skill immigrants, defined as those without high school diplomas. The total gap in fiscal ’04 alone: $89.1 billion.

“Assuming an average adult life span of 60 years for each head of household,” Rector and Kim write, “the average lifetime costs to the taxpayer will be nearly $1.2 million for each low-skill household.” 



  1. McCain is truly a danger to America.

    I did not realize his stance on our borders until I started checking.
    Welcome here.

  2. If illegal immigration is important to you, look at Fred Thompson.

    It is important to me, there is no other country you can just walk in. All countries to my knowledge have rules and laws. It seems unfair to those legally waiting in lline Plus if anyone can just cross the border, who is to say how many terroists have not done so and how many more will that want to do harm? To enforce our borders brings better security and is enforcing our laws.

    Fred Thompson sounds pretty good, afraid the status quo ‘Gop’ is not behind him. I am going to try to get some facts on all of them..:)!

  3. That is truly scary.

    BTW my pet peeve is debating the immigration issue with those who resort to the line, “We can’t possibly deport 12 million illegal aliens.”

    Simple answer, we don’t have to. Deport 250,000 to a 1,000,000 by enforcing the laws and you will see 10 self-deport for every one we have to directly deport. News stories carried by AP are already reporting anecdotal proof for this belief.

    Wow, TT, why do they not see that? of course that would most likely happen.

  4. I had no idea about his border stances either. WOW.

    Guess we will find out a lot more on all of their records, It’s a bummer but important I think for all of us to know,how you feeling sweetie?

  5. Angie, I also admire the fact that he was a POW and fought for the country, but I have to say that’s about it. On most issues he’s a RINO, only a little better than Giuliani. I’m with MK on Fred Thompson. He’s a true Conservative and he’s well-liked enough to really rally the GOP voters.
    I agree that immigration is a crucial issue. If only the candidates would see that. It’s one that has been the demise of several of them. Nobody wants to see what happened in the UK happen in the States.
    By the way, I thought I had you blogrolled and didn’t so I’ve fixed that up.
    Cheers. 🙂

    Thanks Aurora, I think so far from what I have read and heard that Thompson might be the way to is just that he is not getting the support from the big political machine.. We need a real grass roots movement the way of Ron Paul.
    I do not understand why the candidates are not really listening either to the American people.. I fear for the direction our country is headed and I hurt for what has happened in the UK.

  6. Thanks for asking Ang. Pain = 0-2 at the worst (go figure!!!). Tired = 6.

    Sorry FFIA. Maybe going off the meds a little at a time will help in futrue. I hope so.
    I was able to go 3 days from necessity, then crashed, still crashing somewhat..:)

  7. Well, like you, Angie, I have great respect for Senator McCain due to his P.O.W. status and military background. During these times, I would like to vote for leader who has been in the military. It seems to me that is the only way to ensure they know how to make good decisions about the military. Seeing both the political side and knowing what the soldiers feel on the ground is a great thing.

    Also, I am torn on the immigration issue. On one hand, America is supossed to be melting pot of all cultures, a place where you can start your life over, live the American Dream. The illegals often work and pay taxes. In my opinion, this entitles them to some benefits back. Their education level has nothing to do with it…however….On the other hand, they should work toward becoming legal citizens. This is the only way to ensure they are paying taxes. I would not move to Mexico and expect the government there to pay me any benefits without having to fulfill my end of the bargain. And so it should be here in the U.S.

    All in all, I like McCain…but I will keep doing my homework. Thanks for the great post, Angie!

    I agree it is usually better to have one who has actually served and knows the personal cost. I would have loved McCain except for the issues that are so important to me.
    I fear so much for our countrys direction. We can only pray for the right one to be elected.

    I am all for Legal immigration. We are descended from immigrants. Everyone deserves to try to have a better life;

    I believe Illegal immigration is hurting our country in numerous ways.
    #1 It is a total disregard for our countries laws.
    #2.It is dangerous to not have a safe border not just from illegals, if they can get in so too can criminals (as we have seen lately with the murdered border guard) and the most fearful of all, Terroists.
    We cannot legally go in Mexico without a passport or any other country.
    #3. It is bankrupting our border hospitals, many have had to close down.
    #4.It is not fair to those who have been patiently waiting and obeying our laws to come legally.
    #5.It is not fair to the illegals themselves living in fear of being rounded up and deported. and the biggie is they are being taken advantage of many times by employers and sweat factories.
    Mexico is really a rich country with natural resources. their people are poor. There are 2 classes. the haves and have not’s. The government spends less than 6% on their people. The illegals are encouraged to slip in the back door here, make money and send it back to Mexico to support their families left behind. To me, this is keeping that country irresponsible in their humanitarian obligations to their people.

    Thanks miss3h, LOL 🙂

  8. I hear ya…I’m in a CFS crash myself. *sigh*

    Pain is a 0 most of the time now. So that is good!!

    I hear ya friend, glad your pain level is better. I am still crashing.. oh well, 🙂 LOL!

  9. Hi, Angie! I am truly heartbroken over the corruption and confusion in our so-called representatives allowing this to even be an issue. Do you think we would be allowed to break laws and reap benfits all b/c some businessperson wants me for lower wages? Or, if I have a baby in Mexico it automatically has dual citizenship? There’s much more to this than anchor babies and welfare. Please see the Immigration Counters link on my blog and read the articles there. How can an ILLEGAL who became ill in JAIL sue a county (Colorado) and win 1.5 million dollars??? They are mocking our laws and helping to destroy our economy with the help of crooks in D.C.! Please, look at the ticker on Immcounters and see how much money is being wired back and how many are in jail, etc.etc.
    I was a teacher and you would be shock how much time and how many resources are DEMANDED we spend!! The 14th Amendment was not intended to cause a stampede and problems of this proportion!

    I will go over this weekend at some point and check it out.. I do not understand how we have gotten to this point! Yes, they are mocking our laws, justice is not being served but misused. We are going broke in short order, perhaps then others will awaken from their slumber..

    Sorry…there I go again ;-))

    God’s Blessings on All and Please research!!

    Oh, I can’t believe McCain is from Arizona, where there are some truly horrific stories, and he’s this weak!!

  10. Hey Angie! I just saved several sites to and a new one in blogroll called IllegalImmigration.
    What I came to ‘report’ 😉 is that one in del. is a link to find out how your Reps vote and another has a specific (mind-a ler ting) article about McCain.
    Seriously, the more I read and find, the more ‘intellectuals’, politically savvy, and military folks are backing Ron Paul. If y’all haven’t read his articles, letters, and speeches, you would do yourself a favor to see his platform. He’s the closest to Thompson is what I’ve also read, but RP is all about the Constitution—that’s why the others don’t like him and the MSM omits/avoids him—they know he’s got their number! Down ‘n’ dirty politics!

    Hope everyone is well. Godspeed!

    I am self taught in this computer thing and really have a long way to go. I say this as I have had a hard time with and other little handy gadgets..LOL! At least I don’t want to throw the whole thing out the window anymore!:)
    That said, I would love to see and save your links they would certainly be helpful not only to myself but others.

    I shall have to read up more on RP. I love how he is as you say, all about the constitution..however, there are other concerns. I am also afraid we will really get Obama or HC. if RP runs on independent ticket..It would be so nice to have someone with integrity and America’s people and her interests first. I will be giving him a serious look as well as MR. although you know my concerns there too.
    Thank you so much for your info, you are amazing!
    God Bless

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